Carlson Software Forum

Posted: **Fri Dec 14, 2001 3:08 am**

I'm thinking of switching from softdesk to SurvCAD. I am trying it out with
Map5 and the latest version of SurvCAD. One of the things that I can't find
is the routine to "display points by window" when points are not displayed
on the screen. We seem to use this quite a bit in drafting mode, when you
don't want all the points displayed on the screen. In softdesk you could
just specify an area and it would show you the points in the database in
that area, very handy for finding the description of a boundary corner
without turning on the points...

Another is the "Selection Set" routine. This pulled up a dialogue box and
let you pick which entities, like layer, block, text, style, ect. Then
clicking on build and those entities that matched your choices would be
added to the current selection set. Is there anything like that here?

One other is the layer manager and draworder. I think this stuff may have
actually been part of the "Bonus Menu" or "Express Tools". Is there
anything like this in Map5?

Thanks for you time,
Dave Costner

Posted: **Fri Dec 14, 2001 4:41 am**

layer manager is part of express tools...
but vanilla AutoCAD has layer states and draw order built into the program.

as for your other quests... i have no idea...

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Jonathan J. Baker
R&R Engineers-Surveyors, Inc.
Denver, Colorado
_________________________
"Earthlink" <dcc@geosurv.com> wrote in message news:74FEE5B80AD9D511A49800207811DE544292@24-216-164-75.hsacorp.net...
| I'm thinking of switching from softdesk to SurvCAD. I am trying it out with
| Map5 and the latest version of SurvCAD. One of the things that I can't find
| is the routine to "display points by window" when points are not displayed
| on the screen. We seem to use this quite a bit in drafting mode, when you
| don't want all the points displayed on the screen. In softdesk you could
| just specify an area and it would show you the points in the database in
| that area, very handy for finding the description of a boundary corner
| without turning on the points...
|
| Another is the "Selection Set" routine. This pulled up a dialogue box and
| let you pick which entities, like layer, block, text, style, ect. Then
| clicking on build and those entities that matched your choices would be
| added to the current selection set. Is there anything like that here?
|
| One other is the layer manager and draworder. I think this stuff may have
| actually been part of the "Bonus Menu" or "Express Tools". Is there
| anything like this in Map5?
|
| Thanks for you time,
| Dave Costner
|

Posted: **Fri Dec 14, 2001 7:54 pm**

Any advice on wheather or not to make the switch???

Thanks,
Dave Costner

"Jon Baker" <jonathanjbakerNO@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:74FEE5B80AD9D511A49800207811DE544298@24-216-164-75.hsacorp.net...

layer manager is part of express tools...
but vanilla AutoCAD has layer states and draw order built into the
program.

as for your other quests... i have no idea...

--
A2Ki, SurvCad CES, Win98 se
Remove NO SPAM from my email address to email

Jonathan J. Baker
R&R Engineers-Surveyors, Inc.
Denver, Colorado
_________________________
"Earthlink" <dcc@geosurv.com> wrote in message
news:74FEE5B80AD9D511A49800207811DE544292@24-216-164-75.hsacorp.net...
| I'm thinking of switching from softdesk to SurvCAD. I am trying it out
with
| Map5 and the latest version of SurvCAD. One of the things that I can't
find
| is the routine to "display points by window" when points are not
displayed
| on the screen. We seem to use this quite a bit in drafting mode, when
you
| don't want all the points displayed on the screen. In softdesk you
could
| just specify an area and it would show you the points in the database in
| that area, very handy for finding the description of a boundary corner
| without turning on the points...
|
| Another is the "Selection Set" routine. This pulled up a dialogue box
and
| let you pick which entities, like layer, block, text, style, ect. Then
| clicking on build and those entities that matched your choices would be
| added to the current selection set. Is there anything like that here?
|
| One other is the layer manager and draworder. I think this stuff may
have
| actually been part of the "Bonus Menu" or "Express Tools". Is there
| anything like this in Map5?
|
| Thanks for you time,
| Dave Costner
|

Posted: **Fri Dec 14, 2001 8:41 pm**

Dave,

Under "Draw-Locate Points", you can select the option "Locate Within Polyline". This allows you to select a polyline and only the points within that polyline will be drawn on the screen. It can be a closed or open polyline.

Although not part of SurvCADD, the AutoCAD commands "Filter" and "SSX" can be used to build a selection set of certain objects with certain properties. In Map5, the Quick Select button in the properties dialog may be of some help also.

Layer Manager is build into AutoCAD Map5. In the layer dialog box, there are two command: "Save State" and "Restore State". Draworder is built into AutoCAD also. It does have its share of problems though. In SurvCADD, use the command View|Display Order|Solid Fill Float to *permanently* move items to the top of the display order.

Carlson also sells an inexpensive add-on -> "ToolPac", which provides 600+ AutoCAD tools. See http://www.carlsonsw.com/toolpac.htm

If you have any other questions, let us know.

-------------------

Randall McSwain

Carlson Software

"Earthlink" <dcc@geosurv.com> wrote in message news:74FEE5B80AD9D511A49800207811DE544292@24-216-164-75.hsacorp.net...

I'm thinking of switching from softdesk to SurvCAD. I am trying it out with
Map5 and the latest version of SurvCAD. One of the things that I can't find
is the routine to "display points by window" when points are not displayed
on the screen. We seem to use this quite a bit in drafting mode, when you
don't want all the points displayed on the screen. In softdesk you could
just specify an area and it would show you the points in the database in
that area, very handy for finding the description of a boundary corner
without turning on the points...

Another is the "Selection Set" routine. This pulled up a dialogue box and
let you pick which entities, like layer, block, text, style, ect. Then
clicking on build and those entities that matched your choices would be
added to the current selection set. Is there anything like that here?

One other is the layer manager and draworder. I think this stuff may have
actually been part of the "Bonus Menu" or "Express Tools". Is there
anything like this in Map5?

Thanks for you time,
Dave Costner

Posted: **Mon Dec 31, 2001 4:50 am**

If you are doing survey work (details, setout, etc) then I would highly
recommend the Carlson product. LDD R2, which I currently use, requires a
great deal of manipulation to achieve what the Carlson product does simply.
And LDD R3 is a $2000 (Australian)upgrade with only one benefit for
Surveyors, being Autogrouping, which is nowhere near as good as Buds (which
is only $200 Aust).

I'm snooping in this newsgroup 'cause I'm still thinking of going to Carlson
even with the amout of money invested in LDD.

My 2c worth.

Jon Rasmussen
Australia

"Earthlink" <dcc@geosurv.com> wrote in message
news:74FEE5B80AD9D511A49800207811DE54429F@24-216-164-75.hsacorp.net...

Any advice on wheather or not to make the switch???

Thanks,
Dave Costner

"Jon Baker" <jonathanjbakerNO@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:74FEE5B80AD9D511A49800207811DE544298@24-216-164-75.hsacorp.net...
layer manager is part of express tools...
but vanilla AutoCAD has layer states and draw order built into the
program.

as for your other quests... i have no idea...

--
A2Ki, SurvCad CES, Win98 se
Remove NO SPAM from my email address to email

Jonathan J. Baker
R&R Engineers-Surveyors, Inc.
Denver, Colorado
_________________________
"Earthlink" <dcc@geosurv.com> wrote in message
news:74FEE5B80AD9D511A49800207811DE544292@24-216-164-75.hsacorp.net...
| I'm thinking of switching from softdesk to SurvCAD. I am trying it
out
with
| Map5 and the latest version of SurvCAD. One of the things that I
can't
find
| is the routine to "display points by window" when points are not
displayed
| on the screen. We seem to use this quite a bit in drafting mode, when
you
| don't want all the points displayed on the screen. In softdesk you
could
| just specify an area and it would show you the points in the database
in
| that area, very handy for finding the description of a boundary corner
| without turning on the points...
|
| Another is the "Selection Set" routine. This pulled up a dialogue box
and
| let you pick which entities, like layer, block, text, style, ect.
Then
| clicking on build and those entities that matched your choices would
be
| added to the current selection set. Is there anything like that here?
|
| One other is the layer manager and draworder. I think this stuff may
have
| actually been part of the "Bonus Menu" or "Express Tools". Is there
| anything like this in Map5?
|
| Thanks for you time,
| Dave Costner
|

Posted: **Tue Jan 29, 2002 10:26 pm**

Regarding the "display points by window"... this doesn't seem to be that
complicated to me.... the selection window would generate the range of x,y
values to display, and simply display the points in the coordinate file
within the range. We too work with large coordinate files, some projects in
excess of 50k points. It's a pain, unrealistic, to have all the points on
in the drawing. This routine would let you window an area for example, to
display the points in that area. Very helpful for looking for control
points, boundary corners, ect.

Thanks
Dave C.

"Jon Rasmussen" <jonras@amesurveys.com.au> wrote in message
news:74FEE5B80AD9D511A49800207811DE544682@24-216-164-75.hsacorp.net...

If you are doing survey work (details, setout, etc) then I would highly
recommend the Carlson product. LDD R2, which I currently use, requires a
great deal of manipulation to achieve what the Carlson product does
simply.
And LDD R3 is a $2000 (Australian)upgrade with only one benefit for
Surveyors, being Autogrouping, which is nowhere near as good as Buds
(which
is only $200 Aust).

I'm snooping in this newsgroup 'cause I'm still thinking of going to
Carlson
even with the amout of money invested in LDD.

My 2c worth.

Jon Rasmussen
Australia

"Earthlink" <dcc@geosurv.com> wrote in message
news:74FEE5B80AD9D511A49800207811DE54429F@24-216-164-75.hsacorp.net...
Any advice on wheather or not to make the switch???

Thanks,
Dave Costner

"Jon Baker" <jonathanjbakerNO@SPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:74FEE5B80AD9D511A49800207811DE544298@24-216-164-75.hsacorp.net...
layer manager is part of express tools...
but vanilla AutoCAD has layer states and draw order built into the
program.

as for your other quests... i have no idea...

--
A2Ki, SurvCad CES, Win98 se
Remove NO SPAM from my email address to email

Jonathan J. Baker
R&R Engineers-Surveyors, Inc.
Denver, Colorado
_________________________
"Earthlink" <dcc@geosurv.com> wrote in message
news:74FEE5B80AD9D511A49800207811DE544292@24-216-164-75.hsacorp.net...
| I'm thinking of switching from softdesk to SurvCAD. I am trying it
out
with
| Map5 and the latest version of SurvCAD. One of the things that I
can't
find
| is the routine to "display points by window" when points are not
displayed
| on the screen. We seem to use this quite a bit in drafting mode,
when
you
| don't want all the points displayed on the screen. In softdesk you
could
| just specify an area and it would show you the points in the
database
in
| that area, very handy for finding the description of a boundary
corner
| without turning on the points...
|
| Another is the "Selection Set" routine. This pulled up a dialogue
box
and
| let you pick which entities, like layer, block, text, style, ect.
Then
| clicking on build and those entities that matched your choices would
be
| added to the current selection set. Is there anything like that
here?
|
| One other is the layer manager and draworder. I think this stuff
may
have
| actually been part of the "Bonus Menu" or "Express Tools". Is there
| anything like this in Map5?
|
| Thanks for you time,
| Dave Costner
|

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