ENTER DEED DESCRIPTION

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ENTER DEED DESCRIPTION

Postby Harley C. Pawley, PLS » Fri Sep 13, 2002 2:29 am

THANK YOU XML FOR ADDING AN OPTION TO INPUT RADIAL BEARINGS FOR NON-TANGENT
CURVES! HOWEVER, WE NEED IT TO ALSO ALLOW AN OPTION TO INPUT THE DELTA ANGLE
IN ADDITION TO THE RADIUS VS. THE ARC LENTH & RADIUS OPTION NOW. OF COURSE,
THIS ONLY CREATES A DIFFERENCE WHEN DEALING WITH SMALL RADII, WHICH WE DO
QUITE OFTEN IN SUBDIVIDED LOTS. PLEASE ADD THIS TO AN IMPROVEMENT WISH LIST
TO ADD TO THE NEXT FIX. WE WAITED FOR 2 YEARS TO GET THE RADIAL BEARING
OPTION. PLEASE DON'T LET IT BE SO LONG FOR THIS. WE ARE STILL TRYING TO
RID OURSELVES OF OUR C&G DOS MAPCHECK PROGRAM W/O GRAPHICAL INTERFACE.
Harley C. Pawley, PLS
 

Re: ENTER DEED DESCRIPTION

Postby R.K. McSwain » Fri Sep 13, 2002 5:50 am

Harley,

You can input the radius and delta angle, see a portion of the prompting below:

Undo/Exit/Curve/<Bearing (Qdd.mmss)>: C
Radius: 150
Curve direction [Left/<Right>]? R
Non-tangent/Reverse-tangent/Bearing/Chord/DeltaAng/Tangent/<Arc Len>: D
Enter Delta Angle (ddd.mmss): 40

Is this not what you mean?

Thanks,
----------------------------
Randall McSwain
Carlson Software



"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message news:alr41o$5ct$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
THANK YOU XML FOR ADDING AN OPTION TO INPUT RADIAL BEARINGS FOR NON-TANGENT
CURVES! HOWEVER, WE NEED IT TO ALSO ALLOW AN OPTION TO INPUT THE DELTA ANGLE
IN ADDITION TO THE RADIUS VS. THE ARC LENTH & RADIUS OPTION NOW. OF COURSE,
THIS ONLY CREATES A DIFFERENCE WHEN DEALING WITH SMALL RADII, WHICH WE DO
QUITE OFTEN IN SUBDIVIDED LOTS. PLEASE ADD THIS TO AN IMPROVEMENT WISH LIST
TO ADD TO THE NEXT FIX. WE WAITED FOR 2 YEARS TO GET THE RADIAL BEARING
OPTION. PLEASE DON'T LET IT BE SO LONG FOR THIS. WE ARE STILL TRYING TO
RID OURSELVES OF OUR C&G DOS MAPCHECK PROGRAM W/O GRAPHICAL INTERFACE.

R.K. McSwain
 

Re: ENTER DEED DESCRIPTION

Postby Harley C. Pawley, PLS » Fri Sep 13, 2002 7:00 pm

Thanks, Randall, for your response. The option to enter the Delta Angle is
not given for non-tangent curves. Once it asks for chord or radial bearing,
it then asks only for arc length.

Harley

"R.K. McSwain" <rmcswain@carlsonsw.com> wrote in message
news:alrfrk$6pk$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Harley,

You can input the radius and delta angle, see a portion of the prompting
below:

Undo/Exit/Curve/<Bearing (Qdd.mmss)>: C
Radius: 150
Curve direction [Left/<Right>]? R
Non-tangent/Reverse-tangent/Bearing/Chord/DeltaAng/Tangent/<Arc Len>: D
Enter Delta Angle (ddd.mmss): 40

Is this not what you mean?

Thanks,
----------------------------
Randall McSwain
Carlson Software



"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:alr41o$5ct$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
THANK YOU XML FOR ADDING AN OPTION TO INPUT RADIAL BEARINGS FOR
NON-TANGENT
CURVES! HOWEVER, WE NEED IT TO ALSO ALLOW AN OPTION TO INPUT THE DELTA
ANGLE
IN ADDITION TO THE RADIUS VS. THE ARC LENTH & RADIUS OPTION NOW. OF
COURSE,
THIS ONLY CREATES A DIFFERENCE WHEN DEALING WITH SMALL RADII, WHICH WE DO
QUITE OFTEN IN SUBDIVIDED LOTS. PLEASE ADD THIS TO AN IMPROVEMENT WISH
LIST
TO ADD TO THE NEXT FIX. WE WAITED FOR 2 YEARS TO GET THE RADIAL BEARING
OPTION. PLEASE DON'T LET IT BE SO LONG FOR THIS. WE ARE STILL TRYING TO
RID OURSELVES OF OUR C&G DOS MAPCHECK PROGRAM W/O GRAPHICAL INTERFACE.

Harley C. Pawley, PLS
 

Re: ENTER DEED DESCRIPTION

Postby Harley C. Pawley, PLS » Wed Sep 18, 2002 10:25 pm

Any idea when the delta angle option will be added to the non-tangent curve
routine?

"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:alsu48$hd0$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Thanks, Randall, for your response. The option to enter the Delta Angle
is
not given for non-tangent curves. Once it asks for chord or radial
bearing,
it then asks only for arc length.

Harley

"R.K. McSwain" <rmcswain@carlsonsw.com> wrote in message
news:alrfrk$6pk$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Harley,

You can input the radius and delta angle, see a portion of the
prompting
below:

Undo/Exit/Curve/<Bearing (Qdd.mmss)>: C
Radius: 150
Curve direction [Left/<Right>]? R
Non-tangent/Reverse-tangent/Bearing/Chord/DeltaAng/Tangent/<Arc Len>: D
Enter Delta Angle (ddd.mmss): 40

Is this not what you mean?

Thanks,
----------------------------
Randall McSwain
Carlson Software



"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:alr41o$5ct$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
THANK YOU XML FOR ADDING AN OPTION TO INPUT RADIAL BEARINGS FOR
NON-TANGENT
CURVES! HOWEVER, WE NEED IT TO ALSO ALLOW AN OPTION TO INPUT THE DELTA
ANGLE
IN ADDITION TO THE RADIUS VS. THE ARC LENTH & RADIUS OPTION NOW. OF
COURSE,
THIS ONLY CREATES A DIFFERENCE WHEN DEALING WITH SMALL RADII, WHICH WE
DO
QUITE OFTEN IN SUBDIVIDED LOTS. PLEASE ADD THIS TO AN IMPROVEMENT WISH
LIST
TO ADD TO THE NEXT FIX. WE WAITED FOR 2 YEARS TO GET THE RADIAL BEARING
OPTION. PLEASE DON'T LET IT BE SO LONG FOR THIS. WE ARE STILL TRYING
TO
RID OURSELVES OF OUR C&G DOS MAPCHECK PROGRAM W/O GRAPHICAL INTERFACE.



Harley C. Pawley, PLS
 

Re: ENTER DEED DESCRIPTION

Postby Dave C. » Thu Sep 19, 2002 5:08 pm

Harley,

Was that option available in an earlier version of SurvCADD? I'm a new
user, and still struggling with geometry input. Is there a simple way in
SurvCADD to just input a line by bearing and distance without going into the
"Deed Input"? I still think it's awkward to input the quadrant and
direction on the same input line. (just visually hard to check my input
with that extra number in the bearing.)

Thanks,
Dave Costner


"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:amag03$a79$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Any idea when the delta angle option will be added to the non-tangent
curve
routine?

"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:alsu48$hd0$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Thanks, Randall, for your response. The option to enter the Delta Angle
is
not given for non-tangent curves. Once it asks for chord or radial
bearing,
it then asks only for arc length.

Harley

"R.K. McSwain" <rmcswain@carlsonsw.com> wrote in message
news:alrfrk$6pk$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Harley,

You can input the radius and delta angle, see a portion of the
prompting
below:

Undo/Exit/Curve/<Bearing (Qdd.mmss)>: C
Radius: 150
Curve direction [Left/<Right>]? R
Non-tangent/Reverse-tangent/Bearing/Chord/DeltaAng/Tangent/<Arc Len>: D
Enter Delta Angle (ddd.mmss): 40

Is this not what you mean?

Thanks,
----------------------------
Randall McSwain
Carlson Software



"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:alr41o$5ct$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
THANK YOU XML FOR ADDING AN OPTION TO INPUT RADIAL BEARINGS FOR
NON-TANGENT
CURVES! HOWEVER, WE NEED IT TO ALSO ALLOW AN OPTION TO INPUT THE DELTA
ANGLE
IN ADDITION TO THE RADIUS VS. THE ARC LENTH & RADIUS OPTION NOW. OF
COURSE,
THIS ONLY CREATES A DIFFERENCE WHEN DEALING WITH SMALL RADII, WHICH WE
DO
QUITE OFTEN IN SUBDIVIDED LOTS. PLEASE ADD THIS TO AN IMPROVEMENT
WISH
LIST
TO ADD TO THE NEXT FIX. WE WAITED FOR 2 YEARS TO GET THE RADIAL
BEARING
OPTION. PLEASE DON'T LET IT BE SO LONG FOR THIS. WE ARE STILL TRYING
TO
RID OURSELVES OF OUR C&G DOS MAPCHECK PROGRAM W/O GRAPHICAL INTERFACE.





Dave C.
 

Re: ENTER DEED DESCRIPTION

Postby Harley C. Pawley, PLS » Thu Sep 19, 2002 6:51 pm

Dave,
The option has never been available to my knowledge. We first bought
SurvCADD 2000 and up until now the only input option for non-tangent curves
was a chord bearing. Once they add the delta angle option, it will have
everything we need to perform a map check. In this locality (state of
Washington) we show define non-tangent curves w/ radial bearings.

As far as I know, the Deed Input is the simplest way to create a line at a
specific bearing and distance. I'm used to including the quadrant with the
bearing - which originates from our old C&G DOS program input. Other
methods such as Locate by Bearing in the COGO menu ask for the same type of
input, but also require points to be created. Someone at Carlson may know
of the method of input you would like. We find that it's much faster to
input the quadrant included rather than picking an option in a dialogue box
like we found Eagle Point required.
"Dave C." <dcc@geosurv.com> wrote in message
news:amchqt$ndd$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Harley,

Was that option available in an earlier version of SurvCADD? I'm a new
user, and still struggling with geometry input. Is there a simple way in
SurvCADD to just input a line by bearing and distance without going into
the
"Deed Input"? I still think it's awkward to input the quadrant and
direction on the same input line. (just visually hard to check my input
with that extra number in the bearing.)

Thanks,
Dave Costner


"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:amag03$a79$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Any idea when the delta angle option will be added to the non-tangent
curve
routine?

"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:alsu48$hd0$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Thanks, Randall, for your response. The option to enter the Delta
Angle
is
not given for non-tangent curves. Once it asks for chord or radial
bearing,
it then asks only for arc length.

Harley

"R.K. McSwain" <rmcswain@carlsonsw.com> wrote in message
news:alrfrk$6pk$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Harley,

You can input the radius and delta angle, see a portion of the
prompting
below:

Undo/Exit/Curve/<Bearing (Qdd.mmss)>: C
Radius: 150
Curve direction [Left/<Right>]? R
Non-tangent/Reverse-tangent/Bearing/Chord/DeltaAng/Tangent/<Arc Len>:
D
Enter Delta Angle (ddd.mmss): 40

Is this not what you mean?

Thanks,
----------------------------
Randall McSwain
Carlson Software



"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:alr41o$5ct$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
THANK YOU XML FOR ADDING AN OPTION TO INPUT RADIAL BEARINGS FOR
NON-TANGENT
CURVES! HOWEVER, WE NEED IT TO ALSO ALLOW AN OPTION TO INPUT THE
DELTA
ANGLE
IN ADDITION TO THE RADIUS VS. THE ARC LENTH & RADIUS OPTION NOW. OF
COURSE,
THIS ONLY CREATES A DIFFERENCE WHEN DEALING WITH SMALL RADII, WHICH
WE
DO
QUITE OFTEN IN SUBDIVIDED LOTS. PLEASE ADD THIS TO AN IMPROVEMENT
WISH
LIST
TO ADD TO THE NEXT FIX. WE WAITED FOR 2 YEARS TO GET THE RADIAL
BEARING
OPTION. PLEASE DON'T LET IT BE SO LONG FOR THIS. WE ARE STILL
TRYING
TO
RID OURSELVES OF OUR C&G DOS MAPCHECK PROGRAM W/O GRAPHICAL
INTERFACE.







Harley C. Pawley, PLS
 

Re: ENTER DEED DESCRIPTION

Postby Dave C. » Thu Sep 19, 2002 7:39 pm

I guess it's all what you are used to. In our old software package,
everything was from the command line, but the quadrant was entered first,
then a return, then the direction. No biggie, still easier than CEAL, or my
trusty HP 86b. (I still have the HP by the way, I should fire it up some
day and see if the floppies are still good.)

Dave Costner



"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:amcnph$op7$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Dave,
The option has never been available to my knowledge. We first bought
SurvCADD 2000 and up until now the only input option for non-tangent
curves
was a chord bearing. Once they add the delta angle option, it will have
everything we need to perform a map check. In this locality (state of
Washington) we show define non-tangent curves w/ radial bearings.

As far as I know, the Deed Input is the simplest way to create a line at a
specific bearing and distance. I'm used to including the quadrant with the
bearing - which originates from our old C&G DOS program input. Other
methods such as Locate by Bearing in the COGO menu ask for the same type
of
input, but also require points to be created. Someone at Carlson may know
of the method of input you would like. We find that it's much faster to
input the quadrant included rather than picking an option in a dialogue
box
like we found Eagle Point required.
"Dave C." <dcc@geosurv.com> wrote in message
news:amchqt$ndd$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Harley,

Was that option available in an earlier version of SurvCADD? I'm a new
user, and still struggling with geometry input. Is there a simple way
in
SurvCADD to just input a line by bearing and distance without going into
the
"Deed Input"? I still think it's awkward to input the quadrant and
direction on the same input line. (just visually hard to check my input
with that extra number in the bearing.)

Thanks,
Dave Costner


"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:amag03$a79$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Any idea when the delta angle option will be added to the non-tangent
curve
routine?

"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:alsu48$hd0$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Thanks, Randall, for your response. The option to enter the Delta
Angle
is
not given for non-tangent curves. Once it asks for chord or radial
bearing,
it then asks only for arc length.

Harley

"R.K. McSwain" <rmcswain@carlsonsw.com> wrote in message
news:alrfrk$6pk$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Harley,

You can input the radius and delta angle, see a portion of the
prompting
below:

Undo/Exit/Curve/<Bearing (Qdd.mmss)>: C
Radius: 150
Curve direction [Left/<Right>]? R
Non-tangent/Reverse-tangent/Bearing/Chord/DeltaAng/Tangent/<Arc
Len>:
D
Enter Delta Angle (ddd.mmss): 40

Is this not what you mean?

Thanks,
----------------------------
Randall McSwain
Carlson Software



"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:alr41o$5ct$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
THANK YOU XML FOR ADDING AN OPTION TO INPUT RADIAL BEARINGS FOR
NON-TANGENT
CURVES! HOWEVER, WE NEED IT TO ALSO ALLOW AN OPTION TO INPUT THE
DELTA
ANGLE
IN ADDITION TO THE RADIUS VS. THE ARC LENTH & RADIUS OPTION NOW.
OF
COURSE,
THIS ONLY CREATES A DIFFERENCE WHEN DEALING WITH SMALL RADII,
WHICH
WE
DO
QUITE OFTEN IN SUBDIVIDED LOTS. PLEASE ADD THIS TO AN IMPROVEMENT
WISH
LIST
TO ADD TO THE NEXT FIX. WE WAITED FOR 2 YEARS TO GET THE RADIAL
BEARING
OPTION. PLEASE DON'T LET IT BE SO LONG FOR THIS. WE ARE STILL
TRYING
TO
RID OURSELVES OF OUR C&G DOS MAPCHECK PROGRAM W/O GRAPHICAL
INTERFACE.









Dave C.
 

Re: ENTER DEED DESCRIPTION

Postby R.K. McSwain » Fri Sep 20, 2002 3:53 am

Guys,

There is another way. First on the COGO menu, select Line On/Off to turn the line mode ON (assuming it is off). Then open Point Defaults and turn OFF the Point Numbers toggle. Now run the traverse command (which asks for the bearing mode first, then the bearing\azimuth\direction, then the distance.

This will create linework, but no points.


"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message news:amcnph$op7$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Someone at Carlson may know
of the method of input you would like.
R.K. McSwain
 

Re: ENTER DEED DESCRIPTION

Postby Harley C. Pawley » Fri Sep 20, 2002 9:00 pm

Mr. McSwain,
What about the original question RE: the delta angle input for non-tangent
curves?

--
"R.K. McSwain" <rmcswain@carlsonsw.com> wrote in message
news:amdnke$2vc$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Guys,

There is another way. First on the COGO menu, select Line On/Off to turn
the line mode ON (assuming it is off). Then open Point Defaults and turn OFF
the Point Numbers toggle. Now run the traverse command (which asks for the
bearing mode first, then the bearing\azimuth\direction, then the distance.

This will create linework, but no points.


"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:amcnph$op7$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Someone at Carlson may know
of the method of input you would like.
Harley C. Pawley
 

Re: ENTER DEED DESCRIPTION

Postby Joe Prentiss » Mon Sep 23, 2002 5:12 pm

EXTENDER was an excellent way to draw lines from metes and bounds, but I
don't believe it is included in XML. If not, is there a way to migrate it
from CES?


"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:amcnph$op7$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Dave,
The option has never been available to my knowledge. We first bought
SurvCADD 2000 and up until now the only input option for non-tangent
curves
was a chord bearing. Once they add the delta angle option, it will have
everything we need to perform a map check. In this locality (state of
Washington) we show define non-tangent curves w/ radial bearings.

As far as I know, the Deed Input is the simplest way to create a line at a
specific bearing and distance. I'm used to including the quadrant with the
bearing - which originates from our old C&G DOS program input. Other
methods such as Locate by Bearing in the COGO menu ask for the same type
of
input, but also require points to be created. Someone at Carlson may know
of the method of input you would like. We find that it's much faster to
input the quadrant included rather than picking an option in a dialogue
box
like we found Eagle Point required.
"Dave C." <dcc@geosurv.com> wrote in message
news:amchqt$ndd$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Harley,

Was that option available in an earlier version of SurvCADD? I'm a new
user, and still struggling with geometry input. Is there a simple way
in
SurvCADD to just input a line by bearing and distance without going into
the
"Deed Input"? I still think it's awkward to input the quadrant and
direction on the same input line. (just visually hard to check my input
with that extra number in the bearing.)

Thanks,
Dave Costner


"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:amag03$a79$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Any idea when the delta angle option will be added to the non-tangent
curve
routine?

"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:alsu48$hd0$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Thanks, Randall, for your response. The option to enter the Delta
Angle
is
not given for non-tangent curves. Once it asks for chord or radial
bearing,
it then asks only for arc length.

Harley

"R.K. McSwain" <rmcswain@carlsonsw.com> wrote in message
news:alrfrk$6pk$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Harley,

You can input the radius and delta angle, see a portion of the
prompting
below:

Undo/Exit/Curve/<Bearing (Qdd.mmss)>: C
Radius: 150
Curve direction [Left/<Right>]? R
Non-tangent/Reverse-tangent/Bearing/Chord/DeltaAng/Tangent/<Arc
Len>:
D
Enter Delta Angle (ddd.mmss): 40

Is this not what you mean?

Thanks,
----------------------------
Randall McSwain
Carlson Software



"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:alr41o$5ct$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
THANK YOU XML FOR ADDING AN OPTION TO INPUT RADIAL BEARINGS FOR
NON-TANGENT
CURVES! HOWEVER, WE NEED IT TO ALSO ALLOW AN OPTION TO INPUT THE
DELTA
ANGLE
IN ADDITION TO THE RADIUS VS. THE ARC LENTH & RADIUS OPTION NOW.
OF
COURSE,
THIS ONLY CREATES A DIFFERENCE WHEN DEALING WITH SMALL RADII,
WHICH
WE
DO
QUITE OFTEN IN SUBDIVIDED LOTS. PLEASE ADD THIS TO AN IMPROVEMENT
WISH
LIST
TO ADD TO THE NEXT FIX. WE WAITED FOR 2 YEARS TO GET THE RADIAL
BEARING
OPTION. PLEASE DON'T LET IT BE SO LONG FOR THIS. WE ARE STILL
TRYING
TO
RID OURSELVES OF OUR C&G DOS MAPCHECK PROGRAM W/O GRAPHICAL
INTERFACE.









Joe Prentiss
 

Re: ENTER DEED DESCRIPTION

Postby Terry W. Dotson » Mon Sep 23, 2002 10:08 pm

Joe Prentiss wrote:

EXTENDER was an excellent way to draw lines from metes and bounds, but I
don't believe it is included in XML. If not, is there a way to migrate it
from CES?

Extend by Distance is still in SurvCADD XML.

Terry W. Dotson
Carlson Software
Terry W. Dotson
 

Re: ENTER DEED DESCRIPTION

Postby Harley C. Pawley, PLS » Tue Sep 24, 2002 2:22 am

Did this handle curves and non-tangent curves w/ the ability to input radial
bearings and delta angles?

"Joe Prentiss" <jprentiss@esiofva.com> wrote in message
news:amn3ik$ops$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
EXTENDER was an excellent way to draw lines from metes and bounds, but I
don't believe it is included in XML. If not, is there a way to migrate it
from CES?


"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:amcnph$op7$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Dave,
The option has never been available to my knowledge. We first bought
SurvCADD 2000 and up until now the only input option for non-tangent
curves
was a chord bearing. Once they add the delta angle option, it will have
everything we need to perform a map check. In this locality (state of
Washington) we show define non-tangent curves w/ radial bearings.

As far as I know, the Deed Input is the simplest way to create a line at
a
specific bearing and distance. I'm used to including the quadrant with
the
bearing - which originates from our old C&G DOS program input. Other
methods such as Locate by Bearing in the COGO menu ask for the same type
of
input, but also require points to be created. Someone at Carlson may
know
of the method of input you would like. We find that it's much faster to
input the quadrant included rather than picking an option in a dialogue
box
like we found Eagle Point required.
"Dave C." <dcc@geosurv.com> wrote in message
news:amchqt$ndd$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Harley,

Was that option available in an earlier version of SurvCADD? I'm a
new
user, and still struggling with geometry input. Is there a simple way
in
SurvCADD to just input a line by bearing and distance without going
into
the
"Deed Input"? I still think it's awkward to input the quadrant and
direction on the same input line. (just visually hard to check my
input
with that extra number in the bearing.)

Thanks,
Dave Costner


"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:amag03$a79$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Any idea when the delta angle option will be added to the
non-tangent
curve
routine?

"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:alsu48$hd0$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Thanks, Randall, for your response. The option to enter the Delta
Angle
is
not given for non-tangent curves. Once it asks for chord or radial
bearing,
it then asks only for arc length.

Harley

"R.K. McSwain" <rmcswain@carlsonsw.com> wrote in message
news:alrfrk$6pk$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Harley,

You can input the radius and delta angle, see a portion of the
prompting
below:

Undo/Exit/Curve/<Bearing (Qdd.mmss)>: C
Radius: 150
Curve direction [Left/<Right>]? R
Non-tangent/Reverse-tangent/Bearing/Chord/DeltaAng/Tangent/<Arc
Len>:
D
Enter Delta Angle (ddd.mmss): 40

Is this not what you mean?

Thanks,
----------------------------
Randall McSwain
Carlson Software



"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:alr41o$5ct$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
THANK YOU XML FOR ADDING AN OPTION TO INPUT RADIAL BEARINGS FOR
NON-TANGENT
CURVES! HOWEVER, WE NEED IT TO ALSO ALLOW AN OPTION TO INPUT THE
DELTA
ANGLE
IN ADDITION TO THE RADIUS VS. THE ARC LENTH & RADIUS OPTION NOW.
OF
COURSE,
THIS ONLY CREATES A DIFFERENCE WHEN DEALING WITH SMALL RADII,
WHICH
WE
DO
QUITE OFTEN IN SUBDIVIDED LOTS. PLEASE ADD THIS TO AN
IMPROVEMENT
WISH
LIST
TO ADD TO THE NEXT FIX. WE WAITED FOR 2 YEARS TO GET THE RADIAL
BEARING
OPTION. PLEASE DON'T LET IT BE SO LONG FOR THIS. WE ARE STILL
TRYING
TO
RID OURSELVES OF OUR C&G DOS MAPCHECK PROGRAM W/O GRAPHICAL
INTERFACE.











Harley C. Pawley, PLS
 

Re: ENTER DEED DESCRIPTION

Postby Joe Prentiss » Wed Sep 25, 2002 12:24 am

Yes, in that you would traverse the radial bearing and radius length to the
radius point, reverse direction, then turn delta (Ahh.mmss for CW or
A-hh.mmss for CCW) and traverse up the radius length.

Personally, when doing a plat check, I create a new drawing (usually <job
number>platclose.dwg) and set a new crd file (usually <job
number>platclose.crd) and use the traverse command. When I get to a
non-tangent curve, I traverse to the radius point, reoccupy the PC, go back
into Traverse, Arc, and specify the point number previously set for the Rad
Pt, then use the Delta.

If there is an easier way, I'm not averse to change!


"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:amo3o4$2r0$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Did this handle curves and non-tangent curves w/ the ability to input
radial
bearings and delta angles?

"Joe Prentiss" <jprentiss@esiofva.com> wrote in message
news:amn3ik$ops$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
EXTENDER was an excellent way to draw lines from metes and bounds, but I
don't believe it is included in XML. If not, is there a way to migrate
it
from CES?


"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:amcnph$op7$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Dave,
The option has never been available to my knowledge. We first bought
SurvCADD 2000 and up until now the only input option for non-tangent
curves
was a chord bearing. Once they add the delta angle option, it will
have
everything we need to perform a map check. In this locality (state of
Washington) we show define non-tangent curves w/ radial bearings.

As far as I know, the Deed Input is the simplest way to create a line
at
a
specific bearing and distance. I'm used to including the quadrant with
the
bearing - which originates from our old C&G DOS program input. Other
methods such as Locate by Bearing in the COGO menu ask for the same
type
of
input, but also require points to be created. Someone at Carlson may
know
of the method of input you would like. We find that it's much faster
to
input the quadrant included rather than picking an option in a
dialogue
box
like we found Eagle Point required.
"Dave C." <dcc@geosurv.com> wrote in message
news:amchqt$ndd$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Harley,

Was that option available in an earlier version of SurvCADD? I'm a
new
user, and still struggling with geometry input. Is there a simple
way
in
SurvCADD to just input a line by bearing and distance without going
into
the
"Deed Input"? I still think it's awkward to input the quadrant and
direction on the same input line. (just visually hard to check my
input
with that extra number in the bearing.)

Thanks,
Dave Costner


"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:amag03$a79$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Any idea when the delta angle option will be added to the
non-tangent
curve
routine?

"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:alsu48$hd0$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Thanks, Randall, for your response. The option to enter the
Delta
Angle
is
not given for non-tangent curves. Once it asks for chord or
radial
bearing,
it then asks only for arc length.

Harley

"R.K. McSwain" <rmcswain@carlsonsw.com> wrote in message
news:alrfrk$6pk$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Harley,

You can input the radius and delta angle, see a portion of
the
prompting
below:

Undo/Exit/Curve/<Bearing (Qdd.mmss)>: C
Radius: 150
Curve direction [Left/<Right>]? R
Non-tangent/Reverse-tangent/Bearing/Chord/DeltaAng/Tangent/<Arc
Len>:
D
Enter Delta Angle (ddd.mmss): 40

Is this not what you mean?

Thanks,
----------------------------
Randall McSwain
Carlson Software



"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:alr41o$5ct$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
THANK YOU XML FOR ADDING AN OPTION TO INPUT RADIAL BEARINGS
FOR
NON-TANGENT
CURVES! HOWEVER, WE NEED IT TO ALSO ALLOW AN OPTION TO INPUT
THE
DELTA
ANGLE
IN ADDITION TO THE RADIUS VS. THE ARC LENTH & RADIUS OPTION
NOW.
OF
COURSE,
THIS ONLY CREATES A DIFFERENCE WHEN DEALING WITH SMALL RADII,
WHICH
WE
DO
QUITE OFTEN IN SUBDIVIDED LOTS. PLEASE ADD THIS TO AN
IMPROVEMENT
WISH
LIST
TO ADD TO THE NEXT FIX. WE WAITED FOR 2 YEARS TO GET THE
RADIAL
BEARING
OPTION. PLEASE DON'T LET IT BE SO LONG FOR THIS. WE ARE
STILL
TRYING
TO
RID OURSELVES OF OUR C&G DOS MAPCHECK PROGRAM W/O GRAPHICAL
INTERFACE.













Joe Prentiss
 

Re: ENTER DEED DESCRIPTION

Postby Harley C. Pawley » Wed Sep 25, 2002 5:46 am

Well, as soon as they add the delta angle option to the non-tangent curves,
I think we will have a total replacement for our DOS mapcheck program that
was very easy to input, but had no graphics interface at all, so finding
errors in input was usually much more time costly than the input and
reports. It is also very nice to be able to input w/o worrying about points
and coordinates which can be added after the fact if necessary.

"Joe Prentiss" <jprentiss@esiofva.com> wrote in message
news:amqh7b$n44$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Yes, in that you would traverse the radial bearing and radius length to
the
radius point, reverse direction, then turn delta (Ahh.mmss for CW or
A-hh.mmss for CCW) and traverse up the radius length.

Personally, when doing a plat check, I create a new drawing (usually <job
number>platclose.dwg) and set a new crd file (usually <job
number>platclose.crd) and use the traverse command. When I get to a
non-tangent curve, I traverse to the radius point, reoccupy the PC, go
back
into Traverse, Arc, and specify the point number previously set for the
Rad
Pt, then use the Delta.

If there is an easier way, I'm not averse to change!


"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:amo3o4$2r0$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Did this handle curves and non-tangent curves w/ the ability to input
radial
bearings and delta angles?

"Joe Prentiss" <jprentiss@esiofva.com> wrote in message
news:amn3ik$ops$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
EXTENDER was an excellent way to draw lines from metes and bounds, but
I
don't believe it is included in XML. If not, is there a way to
migrate
it
from CES?


"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:amcnph$op7$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Dave,
The option has never been available to my knowledge. We first
bought
SurvCADD 2000 and up until now the only input option for non-tangent
curves
was a chord bearing. Once they add the delta angle option, it will
have
everything we need to perform a map check. In this locality (state
of
Washington) we show define non-tangent curves w/ radial bearings.

As far as I know, the Deed Input is the simplest way to create a
line
at
a
specific bearing and distance. I'm used to including the quadrant
with
the
bearing - which originates from our old C&G DOS program input.
Other
methods such as Locate by Bearing in the COGO menu ask for the same
type
of
input, but also require points to be created. Someone at Carlson
may
know
of the method of input you would like. We find that it's much
faster
to
input the quadrant included rather than picking an option in a
dialogue
box
like we found Eagle Point required.
"Dave C." <dcc@geosurv.com> wrote in message
news:amchqt$ndd$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Harley,

Was that option available in an earlier version of SurvCADD? I'm
a
new
user, and still struggling with geometry input. Is there a simple
way
in
SurvCADD to just input a line by bearing and distance without
going
into
the
"Deed Input"? I still think it's awkward to input the quadrant
and
direction on the same input line. (just visually hard to check my
input
with that extra number in the bearing.)

Thanks,
Dave Costner


"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:amag03$a79$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Any idea when the delta angle option will be added to the
non-tangent
curve
routine?

"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in message
news:alsu48$hd0$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Thanks, Randall, for your response. The option to enter the
Delta
Angle
is
not given for non-tangent curves. Once it asks for chord or
radial
bearing,
it then asks only for arc length.

Harley

"R.K. McSwain" <rmcswain@carlsonsw.com> wrote in message
news:alrfrk$6pk$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Harley,

You can input the radius and delta angle, see a portion of
the
prompting
below:

Undo/Exit/Curve/<Bearing (Qdd.mmss)>: C
Radius: 150
Curve direction [Left/<Right>]? R

Non-tangent/Reverse-tangent/Bearing/Chord/DeltaAng/Tangent/<Arc
Len>:
D
Enter Delta Angle (ddd.mmss): 40

Is this not what you mean?

Thanks,
----------------------------
Randall McSwain
Carlson Software



"Harley C. Pawley, PLS" <hcp@coredesigninc.com> wrote in
message
news:alr41o$5ct$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
THANK YOU XML FOR ADDING AN OPTION TO INPUT RADIAL BEARINGS
FOR
NON-TANGENT
CURVES! HOWEVER, WE NEED IT TO ALSO ALLOW AN OPTION TO INPUT
THE
DELTA
ANGLE
IN ADDITION TO THE RADIUS VS. THE ARC LENTH & RADIUS OPTION
NOW.
OF
COURSE,
THIS ONLY CREATES A DIFFERENCE WHEN DEALING WITH SMALL
RADII,
WHICH
WE
DO
QUITE OFTEN IN SUBDIVIDED LOTS. PLEASE ADD THIS TO AN
IMPROVEMENT
WISH
LIST
TO ADD TO THE NEXT FIX. WE WAITED FOR 2 YEARS TO GET THE
RADIAL
BEARING
OPTION. PLEASE DON'T LET IT BE SO LONG FOR THIS. WE ARE
STILL
TRYING
TO
RID OURSELVES OF OUR C&G DOS MAPCHECK PROGRAM W/O GRAPHICAL
INTERFACE.















Harley C. Pawley
 

Re: ENTER DEED DESCRIPTION

Postby Joe Prentiss » Fri Sep 27, 2002 10:51 pm

Actually, EXTENDER is available in XML. Except for the "clunkiness" in
traversing through curves, it is nice for plain ole line drawing. And with
the ability to turn 90 left or right with a single key, it is great for
drawing houses/ buildings.

"Terry W. Dotson" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:3D8F58B9.45E1E6E8@nospam.com...
Joe Prentiss wrote:

EXTENDER was an excellent way to draw lines from metes and bounds, but I
don't believe it is included in XML. If not, is there a way to migrate
it
from CES?

Extend by Distance is still in SurvCADD XML.

Terry W. Dotson
Carlson Software
Joe Prentiss
 

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