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DIM OVER RIDE QUERK....

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 10:03 pm
by Jeff Clark
ONCE AGAIN!
Still looking for a fix.
Never got a reply to my email to SurvCADD........

The first time you add any type of dimension to the drawing, "Over Rides" magically appear in the dimension settings. Setting any dim style to current eliminates the over rides, and they do not appear again.........until you open the drawing the next day and - Magic! There it is again! We have traced the problem to SurvCADD, as machines without it do NOT do this, and it is very consistent.

What is the fix?!?!?!?

Thanks for your input,
-JC

Re: DIM OVER RIDE QUERK................

PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 11:46 pm
by R.K. McSwain
"Jeff Clark" <jclark@ces-1.com> wrote in message news:bve3ac$1pf$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
The first time you add any type of dimension to the
drawing, "Over Rides" magically appear in the dimension settings.

Just to clarify, they are not "magically" appearing.
Something in the code is changing a "DIMxxx" variable, which automatically creates an "override".

This isn't necessarily directed towards you Jeff, I realize you probably understand what dim overrides are and how they are created, but in case someone reading didn't know - maybe this would help clarify the lack of magic.

Good luck finding a resolution....

Re: DIM OVER RIDE QUERK................

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2004 1:07 am
by Jeff Clark
I know R.K., it's driving me nutz!!
Is it just me, or is the rest of the SurvCADD world experiencing similar Nutz!?!?!


"R.K. McSwain" <rkmcswain@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:bve8nn$468$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
"Jeff Clark" <jclark@ces-1.com> wrote in message news:bve3ac$1pf$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
The first time you add any type of dimension to the
drawing, "Over Rides" magically appear in the dimension settings.

Just to clarify, they are not "magically" appearing.
Something in the code is changing a "DIMxxx" variable, which automatically creates an "override".

This isn't necessarily directed towards you Jeff, I realize you probably understand what dim overrides are and how they are created, but in case someone reading didn't know - maybe this would help clarify the lack of magic.

Good luck finding a resolution....

Re: DIM OVER RIDE QUERK................

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 11:31 pm
by John Dickson
It bugged me at first, but I haven't found any problems in my drawings when the override is eliminated, so now I don't pay much attention to it. If it is making changes to the drawing then we need to raise hell with Carlson, otherwise they have other things in the program that need to be fixed first.

John
"Jeff Clark" <jclark@ces-1.com> wrote in message news:bvee42$6u4$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
I know R.K., it's driving me nutz!!
Is it just me, or is the rest of the SurvCADD world experiencing similar Nutz!?!?!


"R.K. McSwain" <rkmcswain@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:bve8nn$468$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
"Jeff Clark" <jclark@ces-1.com> wrote in message news:bve3ac$1pf$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
The first time you add any type of dimension to the
drawing, "Over Rides" magically appear in the dimension settings.

Just to clarify, they are not "magically" appearing.
Something in the code is changing a "DIMxxx" variable, which automatically creates an "override".

This isn't necessarily directed towards you Jeff, I realize you probably understand what dim overrides are and how they are created, but in case someone reading didn't know - maybe this would help clarify the lack of magic.

Good luck finding a resolution....

Re: DIM OVER RIDE QUERK................

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 8:40 pm
by Jeff Clark
When the over ride is active (before I realize it and correct it) dim properties are a variable at best, basically, unknown. I have experienced giant dims and tiny dims. The most common thing I see is arrowheads on leaders that are typically about 20% smaller than they should be.
Then, to add insult to injury, when I finally realize the problem, simply eliminating the over rides does Not automatically fix the affected dims. They must be selected and then updated.
John, check your arrowheads, they may Not all be the same size ( a personal pet peeve of mine....).

"John Dickson" <altasurveying@comcast.net> wrote in message news:bvjgn3$7a2$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
It bugged me at first, but I haven't found any problems in my drawings when the override is eliminated, so now I don't pay much attention to it. If it is making changes to the drawing then we need to raise hell with Carlson, otherwise they have other things in the program that need to be fixed first.

John
"Jeff Clark" <jclark@ces-1.com> wrote in message news:bvee42$6u4$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
I know R.K., it's driving me nutz!!
Is it just me, or is the rest of the SurvCADD world experiencing similar Nutz!?!?!


"R.K. McSwain" <rkmcswain@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:bve8nn$468$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
"Jeff Clark" <jclark@ces-1.com> wrote in message news:bve3ac$1pf$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
The first time you add any type of dimension to the
drawing, "Over Rides" magically appear in the dimension settings.

Just to clarify, they are not "magically" appearing.
Something in the code is changing a "DIMxxx" variable, which automatically creates an "override".

This isn't necessarily directed towards you Jeff, I realize you probably understand what dim overrides are and how they are created, but in case someone reading didn't know - maybe this would help clarify the lack of magic.

Good luck finding a resolution....

Re: DIM OVER RIDE QUERK................

PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 4:16 pm
by Jeff Clark
I HAVE FOUND A WORK-A-ROUND FIX!!!!!
We use two dim styles on all of our projects, "PROP" and "EXIST" (proposed & existing). It's really all we need in civil engineering.
I added this line to my ACAD.LSP file, in the startup section:

(command "-dimstyle" "R" "PROP")

It sets 'PROP' to current. If the dim style "PROP" does not exist, it really doesn't do anything, but if it does, it gets set to 'current', and the over rides do not show up.
Adding this line to my ACAD.LSP has solved the over ride problem. YEA!!!

-JC

"Jeff Clark" <jclark@ces-1.com> wrote in message news:bvlrj2$v46$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
When the over ride is active (before I realize it and correct it) dim properties are a variable at best, basically, unknown. I have experienced giant dims and tiny dims. The most common thing I see is arrowheads on leaders that are typically about 20% smaller than they should be.
Then, to add insult to injury, when I finally realize the problem, simply eliminating the over rides does Not automatically fix the affected dims. They must be selected and then updated.
John, check your arrowheads, they may Not all be the same size ( a personal pet peeve of mine....).

"John Dickson" <altasurveying@comcast.net> wrote in message news:bvjgn3$7a2$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
It bugged me at first, but I haven't found any problems in my drawings when the override is eliminated, so now I don't pay much attention to it. If it is making changes to the drawing then we need to raise hell with Carlson, otherwise they have other things in the program that need to be fixed first.

John
"Jeff Clark" <jclark@ces-1.com> wrote in message news:bvee42$6u4$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
I know R.K., it's driving me nutz!!
Is it just me, or is the rest of the SurvCADD world experiencing similar Nutz!?!?!


"R.K. McSwain" <rkmcswain@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:bve8nn$468$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
"Jeff Clark" <jclark@ces-1.com> wrote in message news:bve3ac$1pf$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
The first time you add any type of dimension to the
drawing, "Over Rides" magically appear in the dimension settings.

Just to clarify, they are not "magically" appearing.
Something in the code is changing a "DIMxxx" variable, which automatically creates an "override".

This isn't necessarily directed towards you Jeff, I realize you probably understand what dim overrides are and how they are created, but in case someone reading didn't know - maybe this would help clarify the lack of magic.

Good luck finding a resolution....