Layers not purging

[Jason]

After locating points in a drawing I sometimes will select and change
the
layer of the point properties to another layer (yes, I select all three
objects of a point). After doing so, I can't seem to purge the layer
that it
was on. Why?

I used the Autocad filter command to see if there are other entities on
that
particular layer, but there is none. It only seems to be doing this on
Survcadd points. Is there a better way of changing a points layer,
rather
than erasing and relocating the point on the layer that I need? I do
this to
change a plat computed point (mon-comp layer) to a monument to be set
point
(mon-set layer).

Jason

[Jon Baker]

you insert block1. you insert this block on layer1. in the actual
drawing
file for block1 the drawing might have a node or some object on a
different
layer (layer2). in the drawing you just inserted the block into, there
will
be layer2 until you either erase block1 or explode the block and erase
what
ever is on layer2.



--
A2Ki
SurvCad CES
Win98

Jonathan J. Baker
R&R Engineers-Surveyors, Inc.
Denver, Colorado
_________________________
"Jason" <jbly@marshandlegge.com> wrote in message
news:B4A0F73FCE8FD411AF8B00207811DE590134A4@WEBSERVER...

After locating points in a drawing I sometimes will select and change
the
layer of the point properties to another layer (yes, I select all
three
objects of a point). After doing so, I can't seem to purge the layer
that

it

was on. Why?

I used the Autocad filter command to see if there are other entities
on

that

particular layer, but there is none. It only seems to be doing this on
Survcadd points. Is there a better way of changing a points layer,
rather
than erasing and relocating the point on the layer that I need? I do
this

to

change a plat computed point (mon-comp layer) to a monument to be set
point
(mon-set layer).

Jason

[Jason]

I understand that, but does Survcadd points create a point with a block
containing an embedded layer? I wouldn't think so. That would mean that
there would be a block for every different layer that you had a point
on.
Besides, isn't it proper Cad technique to use layer 0 for block objects
and
colors of bylayer as well?

What is the best method of changing a points layer then?

Jason

"Jon Baker" <jonathanjbaker@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:B4A0F73FCE8FD411AF8B00207811DE590134A7@WEBSERVER...

you insert block1. you insert this block on layer1. in the actual
drawing
file for block1 the drawing might have a node or some object on a
different
layer (layer2). in the drawing you just inserted the block into, there
will
be layer2 until you either erase block1 or explode the block and erase
what
ever is on layer2.



--
A2Ki
SurvCad CES
Win98

Jonathan J. Baker
R&R Engineers-Surveyors, Inc.
Denver, Colorado
_________________________
"Jason" <jbly@marshandlegge.com> wrote in message
news:B4A0F73FCE8FD411AF8B00207811DE590134A4@WEBSERVER...
After locating points in a drawing I sometimes will select and
change

the

layer of the point properties to another layer (yes, I select all
three
objects of a point). After doing so, I can't seem to purge the layer
that
it
was on. Why?

I used the Autocad filter command to see if there are other entities
on
that
particular layer, but there is none. It only seems to be doing this
on
Survcadd points. Is there a better way of changing a points layer,
rather
than erasing and relocating the point on the layer that I need? I do
this
to
change a plat computed point (mon-comp layer) to a monument to be
set
point
(mon-set layer).

Jason

[Jon Baker]

either open the blocks contained with in the survcad sup folder and
change
all to bylayer and 0 by using a script file, and then redefine the
blocks in
the drawings you are working in...

use
-insert
Blockname=Blockname
"do you wish to redefine?" YES
then escape out of the command...

or ddinsert or insert (with dialog box)

or

double click the block with in the drawing you are working in and change
them there (but you will have the same problem in the next drawing.)

--
A2Ki
SurvCad CES
Win98

Jonathan J. Baker
R&R Engineers-Surveyors, Inc.
Denver, Colorado
_________________________
"Jason" <jbly@marshandlegge.com> wrote in message
news:B4A0F73FCE8FD411AF8B00207811DE590134AA@WEBSERVER...

I understand that, but does Survcadd points create a point with a
block
containing an embedded layer? I wouldn't think so. That would mean
that
there would be a block for every different layer that you had a point
on.
Besides, isn't it proper Cad technique to use layer 0 for block
objects

and

colors of bylayer as well?

What is the best method of changing a points layer then?

Jason

"Jon Baker" <jonathanjbaker@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:B4A0F73FCE8FD411AF8B00207811DE590134A7@WEBSERVER...
you insert block1. you insert this block on layer1. in the actual
drawing
file for block1 the drawing might have a node or some object on a
different
layer (layer2). in the drawing you just inserted the block into,
there
will
be layer2 until you either erase block1 or explode the block and
erase
what
ever is on layer2.



--
A2Ki
SurvCad CES
Win98

Jonathan J. Baker
R&R Engineers-Surveyors, Inc.
Denver, Colorado
_________________________
"Jason" <jbly@marshandlegge.com> wrote in message
news:B4A0F73FCE8FD411AF8B00207811DE590134A4@WEBSERVER...
After locating points in a drawing I sometimes will select and
change
the
layer of the point properties to another layer (yes, I select all
three
objects of a point). After doing so, I can't seem to purge the
layer
that
it
was on. Why?

I used the Autocad filter command to see if there are other
entities

on

that
particular layer, but there is none. It only seems to be doing
this on
Survcadd points. Is there a better way of changing a points layer,
rather
than erasing and relocating the point on the layer that I need? I
do
this
to
change a plat computed point (mon-comp layer) to a monument to be
set
point
(mon-set layer).

Jason

[Michael Ricci]

You may have already covered this, but here is the problem we had. I do
a
qsave often while in AutoCAD. I assume that each time I save, a block
named
SURVSETV is being created on the current layer. That layer can not be
purged and when I run a filter, it does not find the block. I set my
current layer to "0" and do a qsave. That redefines the layer that the
SURVSETV is on, and then use the LDEL command to purge my layers.

This may not be your problem but I thought I would toss in my 2 cents.

Mike Ricci


"Jason" <jbly@marshandlegge.com> wrote in message
news:B4A0F73FCE8FD411AF8B00207811DE590134A4@WEBSERVER...

After locating points in a drawing I sometimes will select and change
the
layer of the point properties to another layer (yes, I select all
three
objects of a point). After doing so, I can't seem to purge the layer
that

it

was on. Why?

I used the Autocad filter command to see if there are other entities
on

that

particular layer, but there is none. It only seems to be doing this on
Survcadd points. Is there a better way of changing a points layer,
rather
than erasing and relocating the point on the layer that I need? I do
this

to

change a plat computed point (mon-comp layer) to a monument to be set
point
(mon-set layer).

Jason

[Randall McSwain]

Mike is exactly right. I never realized that the entities inside the
SURVSETV block are on the layer
that is current when you save.

I have reported this and anticipate it being fixed in time for the next
build. If sooner, I will let
you know.

In the meantime, you will have to do as Mike and set your current layer
to "0" before each save.

Randall McSwain
Carlson Software
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"Michael Ricci" <mricci@coal-ray.com> wrote in message
news:B4A0F73FCE8FD411AF8B00207811DE59013893@WEBSERVER...

You may have already covered this, but here is the problem we had. I
do a
qsave often while in AutoCAD. I assume that each time I save, a block
named
SURVSETV is being created on the current layer. That layer can not be
purged and when I run a filter, it does not find the block. I set my
current layer to "0" and do a qsave. That redefines the layer that
the
SURVSETV is on, and then use the LDEL command to purge my layers.

This may not be your problem but I thought I would toss in my 2 cents.

Mike Ricci


"Jason" <jbly@marshandlegge.com> wrote in message
news:B4A0F73FCE8FD411AF8B00207811DE590134A4@WEBSERVER...
After locating points in a drawing I sometimes will select and
change the
layer of the point properties to another layer (yes, I select all
three
objects of a point). After doing so, I can't seem to purge the layer
that
it
was on. Why?

I used the Autocad filter command to see if there are other entities
on
that
particular layer, but there is none. It only seems to be doing this
on
Survcadd points. Is there a better way of changing a points layer,
rather
than erasing and relocating the point on the layer that I need? I do
this
to
change a plat computed point (mon-comp layer) to a monument to be
set
point
(mon-set layer).

Jason