Attributes all using Easting coordinate

[Geoffrey Leiter]

I brought in a set of points and SurvCAD assigned the easting coord to the
point no, elev, northing and easting. Everything was fine a few days ago.
Any ideas.

SurvCAD 2006
AutoCAD 2002

[Surveyor]

You "brought in" a set of points, can you be more specific? Did you import
an ASCII file, or did you map them in from another Carlson .CRD? Did you do
a conversion from another format?

I'm assuming you imported an ASCII file. First open the file in Wordpad,
note the format (comma delimited, space delimited, field order, ect, ect)
then check your format upon import. Works every time for me, must have
something messed up. Jeremy



"Geoffrey Leiter" <darc87@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I brought in a set of points and SurvCAD assigned the easting coord to the
point no, elev, northing and easting. Everything was fine a few days ago.
Any ideas.

SurvCAD 2006
AutoCAD 2002

[Geoffrey Leiter]

If I import (correctly) or create a new point I still get the Eastings for
all three attributes. If I do a list points, the points are reported
correctly (correct info for N E Z).

"Surveyor" <surveyor@isp.com> wrote in message
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You "brought in" a set of points, can you be more specific? Did you import
an ASCII file, or did you map them in from another Carlson .CRD? Did you
do a conversion from another format?

I'm assuming you imported an ASCII file. First open the file in Wordpad,
note the format (comma delimited, space delimited, field order, ect, ect)
then check your format upon import. Works every time for me, must have
something messed up. Jeremy



"Geoffrey Leiter" <darc87@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I brought in a set of points and SurvCAD assigned the easting coord to the
point no, elev, northing and easting. Everything was fine a few days ago.
Any ideas.

SurvCAD 2006
AutoCAD 2002

[Surveyor]

"If I-create a new point I still get the Eastings for all three attributes"
Thats really odd. What really surprizes me is that Carlson was not able to
get a fix for you. Have you tried starting from scratch with a new drawing,
a new .crd file, and a different ASCII file? Sounds like an annotation
problem. The points are plotting in the correct location..right? What
version and build are you using?

I'm using 2006 SurvCad (build 050721) w/2006 LDD and get correct results
when using the "POINTS>EDIT POINT ATTRIBUTES"
Are you getting bad N,E,Z when using that command?
JRL



"Geoffrey Leiter" <darc87@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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import (correctly) or . If I do a list points, the points are reported
correctly (correct info for N E Z).

"Surveyor" <surveyor@isp.com> wrote in message
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You "brought in" a set of points, can you be more specific? Did you
import an ASCII file, or did you map them in from another Carlson .CRD?
Did you do a conversion from another format?

I'm assuming you imported an ASCII file. First open the file in Wordpad,
note the format (comma delimited, space delimited, field order, ect, ect)
then check your format upon import. Works every time for me, must have
something messed up. Jeremy



"Geoffrey Leiter" <darc87@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dcln2g$a6l$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
I brought in a set of points and SurvCAD assigned the easting coord to
the point no, elev, northing and easting. Everything was fine a few days
ago. Any ideas.

SurvCAD 2006
AutoCAD 2002

[Terry W. Dotson]

Surveyor wrote:

"If I-create a new point I still get the Eastings for all three
attributes"

Apparently Geoffrey had turned on ToolPac's LiveAttributes and put the
point block tags in. LiveAttributes works reactively and directly
changes the attributes (to coordinates) of the block as it is moved.

Problem should be solved.

Terry

[Geoffrey Leiter]

Actually I had the live attributes turned on but nothing listed in the tags
settings (tag names were blank). Since I don't use this feature in toolpac
I disabled it and all is well again.

"Terry W. Dotson" <dotson@dotsoft.com> wrote in message
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Surveyor wrote:

"If I-create a new point I still get the Eastings for all three
attributes"

Apparently Geoffrey had turned on ToolPac's LiveAttributes and put the
point block tags in. LiveAttributes works reactively and directly
changes the attributes (to coordinates) of the block as it is moved.

Problem should be solved.

Terry

[Surveyor]

OK, I knew something odd was happening. I did not know he was using an
add-on program.

"Terry W. Dotson" <dotson@dotsoft.com> wrote in message
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Surveyor wrote:

"If I-create a new point I still get the Eastings for all three
attributes"

Apparently Geoffrey had turned on ToolPac's LiveAttributes and put the
point block tags in. LiveAttributes works reactively and directly
changes the attributes (to coordinates) of the block as it is moved.

Problem should be solved.

Terry

[Geoffrey Leiter]

Thanks for trying to help. As stated earlier it was a problem caused by a
setting in Toolpac. One of the recent toolpac updates apparently turned
this Live Attribute feature on and since the options were left blank in the
settings it started modifying all new inserts. I knew something was strange
when I inserted a Bar Scale and all the bar scale attributes showed up wrong
as well.

"Surveyor" <surveyor@isp.com> wrote in message
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OK, I knew something odd was happening. I did not know he was using an
add-on program.

"Terry W. Dotson" <dotson@dotsoft.com> wrote in message
news:dcp37o$s39$1@update.carlsonsw.com...
Surveyor wrote:

"If I-create a new point I still get the Eastings for all three
attributes"

Apparently Geoffrey had turned on ToolPac's LiveAttributes and put the
point block tags in. LiveAttributes works reactively and directly
changes the attributes (to coordinates) of the block as it is moved.

Problem should be solved.

Terry

[Terry W. Dotson]

Geoffrey Leiter wrote:

... setting in Toolpac. One of the recent toolpac updates apparently
turned this Live Attribute feature on ...

The shipping default is off, and none of the updates turn it on. No one
else has reported this behavior. When the system is turned on and used
properly it can have very desireable results.

Terry

[Geoffrey Leiter]

Assuming I turned this feature on which is ofcourse totally possible, I
cannot understand the following:

1. If I uninstall Toolpac9, then reinstall toolpac9 (original copy I
received when it was first released) there is no problem.
2. If following step1 I run the TP9 update then there is a problem.

Please note that I did not put any tag names in TP9 setup. They have always
been blank. Does a blank tag name automatically become a wildcard that will
update all block attributes when they are inserted? It would appear so
since the Bar Scale also had the wrong attribute data.

Please don't take this is any criticism of the TP9 software. I am extremely
happy with TP9 and really appreciate all the help you provide. I am just
trying to understand how this happened.

Thanks.

"Terry W. Dotson" <dotson@dotsoft.com> wrote in message
news:dctjbk$m79$1@update.carlsonsw.com...

Geoffrey Leiter wrote:

... setting in Toolpac. One of the recent toolpac updates apparently
turned this Live Attribute feature on ...

The shipping default is off, and none of the updates turn it on. No one
else has reported this behavior. When the system is turned on and used
properly it can have very desireable results.

Terry

[Terry W. Dotson]

Geoffrey Leiter wrote:

Assuming I turned this feature ...

This isn't the place for this discussion, see you in
news://news.dotsoft.com/toolpac

Terry