Creating Views

[Michael Tate]

Thanks for your reply ref. "Mview", however, in Land Desktop R2 I was
continually creating different "Views" in model space for different layouts
and scales to be used in paperspace. If I can only go into Paperspace to
use "mview" to create a view, does that mean that there is no way to create
a view in model space at different scales? It just doesn't make sense to
me. Am I missing something? The view command is an AutoCAD command. Why
wouldn't it work with Carlson's Survey XML?

Thanks
Glenda

[nixoneng]

Look at the training movies on your installation disk. There is a nice
explanation there. I have always been befuddled by Paperspace/openspace
and the movie helped.

[Michael Tate]

Thanks, but I did look in the training section on our installation disk of
Carlson Survey XML and there is nothing referencing "Plotting" or anything
having to do with "Views" or paperspace. Can you tell me exactly where this
section might be?

Thanks
Glenda
"Michael Tate" <miketate@infi.net> wrote in message
news:b47nfs$jfe$1@update.carlsonsw.com...

Thanks for your reply ref. "Mview", however, in Land Desktop R2 I was
continually creating different "Views" in model space for different
layouts
and scales to be used in paperspace. If I can only go into Paperspace to
use "mview" to create a view, does that mean that there is no way to
create
a view in model space at different scales? It just doesn't make sense to
me. Am I missing something? The view command is an AutoCAD command.
Why
wouldn't it work with Carlson's Survey XML?

Thanks
Glenda

[R.K. McSwain]

There are no commands in Carlson Survey XML to create, edit or delete Named Views. View *is* an AutoCAD command, but not all AutoCAD commands are available in Carlson Survey.


"Michael Tate" <miketate@infi.net> wrote in message news:b47nfs$jfe$1@update.carlsonsw.com...

Thanks for your reply ref. "Mview", however, in Land Desktop R2 I was
continually creating different "Views" in model space for different layouts
and scales to be used in paperspace. If I can only go into Paperspace to
use "mview" to create a view, does that mean that there is no way to create
a view in model space at different scales? It just doesn't make sense to
me. Am I missing something? The view command is an AutoCAD command. Why
wouldn't it work with Carlson's Survey XML?

Thanks
Glenda

[Terry W. Dotson]

"R.K. McSwain" wrote:

but not all AutoCAD commands are available in Carlson Survey.

If they were, it would cost as much.

Terry

[Michael Tate]

I appreciate the responses I have had, but unfortunately not one of the
replies has even attempted to help me with this situation. I quite well
understand that this software IS NOT Land Desktop (I have worked with
Autocad since it's infancy), but there HAS TO BE A WAY TO PLOT. Otherwise
the software would be useless and no one would buy it no matter what bells
and whistles it has. Now, that being the case, can anyone out there tell me
how I can get the proper information for plotting. The software that I have
makes little mention to plotting and what is mentioned is useless. For
example, how can the layouts be used? If they can't be used why are they
even included in the software. I can spent a lot of useless time trying out
things in Carlson and not knowing whether or not they work, would have no
clue whether the function was useless or simply was not included. Is there
a list of commands that Carlson can use? If anyone does know about plotting
and can tell me where on the training disk it is located, I would appreciate
it.

Glenda

"Michael Tate" <miketate@infi.net> wrote in message
news:b47nfs$jfe$1@update.carlsonsw.com...

Thanks for your reply ref. "Mview", however, in Land Desktop R2 I was
continually creating different "Views" in model space for different
layouts
and scales to be used in paperspace. If I can only go into Paperspace to
use "mview" to create a view, does that mean that there is no way to
create
a view in model space at different scales? It just doesn't make sense to
me. Am I missing something? The view command is an AutoCAD command.
Why
wouldn't it work with Carlson's Survey XML?

Thanks
Glenda

[R.K. McSwain]

Carlson Survey is built on the AutoCAD OEM engine. The OEM engine is a
*SUBSET* of full blown AutoCAD, the degree of which is determined by the
developer.
What exactly is it that you feel you cannot do with this program? Sure it
can plot, yes you can use layouts. The list of commands is in the manual.
If you need detailed information on plotting, you may want to take a
training class or purchase a standard AutoCAD manual that covers this topic.


"Michael Tate" <gsnively@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:b6uet2$38c$1@update.carlsonsw.com...

I appreciate the responses I have had, but unfortunately not one of the
replies has even attempted to help me with this situation. I quite well
understand that this software IS NOT Land Desktop (I have worked with
Autocad since it's infancy), but there HAS TO BE A WAY TO PLOT. Otherwise
the software would be useless and no one would buy it no matter what bells
and whistles it has. Now, that being the case, can anyone out there tell
me
how I can get the proper information for plotting. The software that I
have
makes little mention to plotting and what is mentioned is useless. For
example, how can the layouts be used? If they can't be used why are they
even included in the software. I can spent a lot of useless time trying
out
things in Carlson and not knowing whether or not they work, would have no
clue whether the function was useless or simply was not included. Is
there
a list of commands that Carlson can use? If anyone does know about
plotting
and can tell me where on the training disk it is located, I would
appreciate
it.

Glenda

[Doug Sims]

Here is an attempt to answer you question without getting too long.
Basically, the layouts are used for a WYSIWYG (what you see is what you
get) view of your drawing. There are two options (logic options that is)
for using the layouts. (1) is to use the layouts just like model space,
so that you see how much space you have to print with. To do this,
simple click on a new layout, type 'MVIEW' and hit 'f' for fit and it
will make a viewport over the entire page scaled 1:1 (no zoom). The
trick here is to set up the page with a plot scale of 1 unit = [drawing
scale].
Second way (2) is to use it as a scaled view. by setting up the page as
a 1:1 ratio. This requires you to scale the viewports (using either zoom
->S -> XP, or properties dialog box to pick the scale). Once scaled the
viewport can be locked and you can use the floating model space as you
work in the layout, or draw on paperspace.
There is much more to this and I would agree with others to check out
some training material on the advantages of each way, and some ways to
set standards for your drawings.
Finally, just plot the layout using your page setup and checking the
preview to be sure everything is correct.
Hope that helps. Email me if you need more info on this.
--Doug

Michael Tate wrote:

I appreciate the responses I have had, but unfortunately not one of the
replies has even attempted to help me with this situation. I quite well
understand that this software IS NOT Land Desktop (I have worked with
Autocad since it's infancy), but there HAS TO BE A WAY TO PLOT. Otherwise
the software would be useless and no one would buy it no matter what bells
and whistles it has. Now, that being the case, can anyone out there tell me
how I can get the proper information for plotting. The software that I have
makes little mention to plotting and what is mentioned is useless. For
example, how can the layouts be used? If they can't be used why are they
even included in the software. I can spent a lot of useless time trying out
things in Carlson and not knowing whether or not they work, would have no
clue whether the function was useless or simply was not included. Is there
a list of commands that Carlson can use? If anyone does know about plotting
and can tell me where on the training disk it is located, I would appreciate
it.

Glenda

"Michael Tate" <miketate@infi.net> wrote in message
news:b47nfs$jfe$1@update.carlsonsw.com...

Thanks for your reply ref. "Mview", however, in Land Desktop R2 I was
continually creating different "Views" in model space for different

layouts

and scales to be used in paperspace. If I can only go into Paperspace to
use "mview" to create a view, does that mean that there is no way to

create

a view in model space at different scales? It just doesn't make sense to
me. Am I missing something? The view command is an AutoCAD command.

Why

wouldn't it work with Carlson's Survey XML?

Thanks
Glenda